Health and Wellness: Surviving Uncertainty

with Eb Roberts

With most of the country practicing social-distancing due to Covid-19, you might be feeling more isolated and fearful of the unknown than ever before. Listen as VO Boss Anne Ganguzza interviews Licensed Clinical Mental Health (LCMHC) counselor: Eb Roberts for a discussion on self-care and your mental health during these uncertain times. Eb has over 20 years of clinical experience in treating individuals and couples. Eb received her Master’s in Counseling from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte and her Juris Doctorate from Georgia State University.

Take a BOSS break for your soul. We’re all in this together. Stay safe and healthy out there!


Quick Concepts from Today’s Episode

  1. Not knowing the end date of crisis can make you feel out of control

  2. When you feel out of control, concentrate on the things in your life that you can control

  3. When we’re feeling so isolated, it helps to remember that the world is going through this with you

  4. Many people want to know “why is this happening?”

  5. Since this is happening to the whole world, it’s an opportunity to learn

  6. Social distancing and working from home can create opportunities to enjoy your family life at a slower pace. Take this time to plan special activities while practicing social distancing. Choose to see this as an opportunity to have time they we may never have again

  7. Having everyone at home might feel like an invasion of privacy. You have to learn how to share the space

  8. Even our animals are having to adjust to us being home all day

  9. Set boundaries, keep a schedule, and make sure everyone is accountable to that schedule

  10. Make sure everyone has their own workspace

  11. Social media is both awful and a blessing

  12. Do what works best for you and your family. Give yourself permission to do whatever feels good, and to create memories

  13. You may want to limit your exposure to social media if it’s going to make you feel deflated

  14. Don’t compare yourself to how others are surviving quarantine

  15. People’s social media life is just a snapshot of their day. We don’t see how many hours it took to get that perfect shot, or that perfect image

  16. It’s ok to give yourself permission to have some fun in the midst of this.

  17. Learn what news applies to you and is applicable to you, and then stop your news consumption there. You can go into information overload

  18. There is a difference between being worried and being anxious. Worry is mild and temporary, and it’s specific in nature. Where is becomes concerning is where is bleeds over into anxiety. Anxiety oftentimes is very vague. It’s not just anxious over contracting this virus, it’s “then what happens.” You can go down the rabbit hole and it’s severe and it controls you

  19. One of the best antidotes for anxiety is to be calm. Use a faith system, or something that anchors you or tethers you to the world, whether this be God, or the Universe at large. Anything that makes you feel that you are not alone

  20. It’s ok to not be ok and reach out for help

  21. Being able to admit that you don’t have control may help you. All you have is love to give to those in your life

  22. The first step of any recovery program is admitting that you’re powerless, and it’s the same with this crisis

  23. Take a breath, a step back, and acknowledge that this is bigger than you and ask someone for help

  24. Anxiety presents itself in a viareity of different ways: lack of sleep, being angry, challenging behavior, walking in place, clenched fists, anger, crying, panic attacks

  25. What helps you may not help others. However, you can offer to help other people, and be there for them. Listen to others, and talk, and encourage them to reach out to someone, which may include a professional.

Referenced in this Episode

Direct links to things we brought up ++

One Eighty Counseling (for those in NC and GA, or to contact Eb for resources)  (Eb Works on this platform and can be chosen here in NC or GA)
If your employer uses Teladoc for telemental health, that is another option.  This is ONLY available through an employer who purchases this as an option however.  Eb works on this platform as well for GA and NC.
Many employers have an EAP (Employee Assistance Program) that can also be of great benefit to many people in these trying times.
National Institute on Mental Illness and Covid-19
The CDC and Mental Health in Covid-19
10 Ways your anxiety might be manifesting
Recorded on ipDTL
Awesome editing by Carl Bahner


>> It’s time to take your business to the next level, the BOSS level! These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry’s top talent today. Rock your business like a BOSS, a VO BOSS. Now let’s welcome your host Anne Ganguzza.

Anne: Hey everyone. Welcome to the VO BOSS podcast. I’m your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with a very special guest today, Eb Roberts. Eb is a licensed clinical mental health professional with over 20 years of clinical experience in treating individuals and couples. She received her master’s in counseling from the University of North Carolina at Charlotte and her juris-doctorate from Georgia State University, and she’s worked with professionals managing depression, substance use and abuse, anxiety, life/work balance stressors, eating disorders and sexual matters. She has a special interest and expertise in treating these issues as well as Asperger’s, couples work, pre-divorce counseling, and career and employment counseling. Eb, thank you so much for joining us today. I really appreciate you spending time with us.

Eb: Thank you, Anne. Thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it.

Anne: So Eb, I want to talk a little bit about the current COVID-19 crisis and how it’s affecting us all on an emotional level. There’s so much fear, and there’s so much uncertainty that is happening out there right now that I’d love to try to get your take on it and get a handle on how we might best deal with all of these crazy emotions that I know must be going through everyone’s mind right now.

Eb: Sure, thank you. That’s a great question, and it’s one that a lot of clients are asking right now, when is this going to end, what is this going to look like. And I say it sort of tongue-in-cheek, but there’s just truth to it, which is none of us have a crystal ball. We really don’t know what’s going to happen. We don’t know how long this is going to last. And we don’t know the extent that this virus is going to impact this country. This is such a unique time, Anne, in that this is universal. There are very few countries around the globe that are not being impacted by this virus. And you know, knowing that it’s universal, for me, it takes me back to 9/11, and it takes me back to just that feeling in this country. I was pregnant with my first child, asking myself much the same question that I’m asking right now, as he’s about to graduate from high school, which is, what kind of world is this, you know, that I’m about to bring him into? And now it’s like, what kind of world is it he’s about to launch out into? But it’s so universal. We’re all feeling it. So I’m really encouraging clients to just remember that when things feel really out of control, it helps to think about what you can control. Because nothing helps to ground you more than to think about the things that you really do have some control over.

Anne: Well, I think it’s so interesting that you mentioned, it is global, and you just put it in a way I didn’t think about before. While I’m feeling so isolated, state mandates, you know, stay-at-home, that kind of thing, but yet we’re all going through this together, so in a way, that kind of makes me feel at least like I’m not experiencing it alone.

Eb: Exactly. Yeah. I mean, knowing that your neighbor is going through the same thing even if it looks different in their home, but the fact that people in Canada are experiencing this, people in many parts of Mexico are experiencing this, people all over North America, people all over, you know, many parts