Boss Mindset: When the Struggle is Real

with Liz Atherton

”Does anyone else feel completely unproductive, unmotivated, and uncreative right now?” This thoughtful question from Rebecca Davis got us thinking about the very real struggles we face during this pandemic. Join VO Boss Anne Ganguzza and series co-host Liz Atherton for a heartfelt discussion on the trials and tribulations of social distancing. The struggle is real. It’s ok to not be ok. You’re a boss, no matter what!


Quick Concepts from Today’s Episode:

  1. Rebecca Davis inspired this podcast by asking the question: “does anyone else feel completely unproductive, unmotivative and uncreative right now?”

  2. Everybody is at their own point in this trauma

  3. Don’t put too much pressure on yourself to be positive during all of this

  4. Who am i to tell you how to feel? There is not right way to feel!

  5. You cannot choose what you fear, nor should you try and set the opinions or feelings of others!

  6. Some people deal by pushing forward through work, but make sure you take the time to adbsorb what is happening

  7. It’s ok to be distracted when trying to audition with all of this

  8. If you feel sad own it. If you feel happy own it!

  9. It’s ok to feel guilty and like you can’t do enough

  10. Getting out and serving your community, in a safe way, can help your mental health

  11. Now might be the time to get into meditation

  12. Use this time to connect to friends and family who are far away

  13. Zoom connected so many of us, when internet connection is all we have

  14. Facebook connects us together

  15. Take this opportunity to look inward and understand what your values are

  16. When things are out of your control, you look inward and can learn to accept it

  17. Don’t be afraid to ask for help

  18. Being grateful is the other side of ugly

  19. Even though we’re starting to get good news, don’t think there’s an answer, we still need to stay at home

  20. Remain vigilant, stay at home, wear masks if you go outside

Referenced in this Episode

Direct links to things we brought up ++

10 Ways your anxiety might be manifesting
More information on Zoom
Recorded on ipDTL
Editing by Carl Bahner


>> It’s time to take your business to the next level, the BOSS level! These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry’s top talent today. Rock your business like a BOSS, a VO BOSS. Now let’s welcome your host Anne Ganguzza.

Anne: Hey everyone. Welcome to the VO BOSS podcast. I’m your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with the bee, the Queen herself, Ms. Liz Atherton. Hey Liz.

Liz: Hey Anne. How are you? Crack me up every time.

Anne: You know, Liz, it has been a crazy, I keep saying how crazy of a time it is, and you know, emotions have run up and down and all over the place, and I think it’s a good time for you and I to just, let’s just talk open and honest about what’s going on and how you’re reacting, how I’m reacting, how your friends and family are reacting. The other day I noticed a great post by Rebecca Davis, who said she was debating whether or not to post it, because she always wants to be positive and optimistic, and I’m kind of that person too. But she asked the question, does anyone else feel completely unproductive, unmotivated and uncreative right now? And wow, what a great question. Literally hundreds of comments already on it. And I think it’s something that we can kind of discuss here because I think everybody is at a different point in this trauma.

Liz: You know, Anne, I can speak to myself. As of today, I’ve been quarantined for a month. I’ve had two visits from people that we made sure we distanced ourselves, we shared a meal, and we went our merry – and we watched a movie I think, and then we went our merry way. With the absolute assurance we had been practicing safe quarantining up until then. That’s it. You know, I’ve gone to the grocery store, and that’s a traumatic experience. I’ve found myself becoming somewhat of a vigilante person. But when this first started, you know, I was all happy. I was getting on the Internet, and I was do FaceTiming which is just crazy. Posting all sorts of funny stuff. In parallel to this I still have work. You know, it’s not bringing me any money right now, but I have work. We’re working on getting CastVoices launched. There’s a lot of creative opportunity there, but just in general I was like, it started out really exciting, and then it got to worried, and now I feel like I’m in this void. Actually I’ve picked back up a little bit, but yeah, I completely understand where Rebecca is coming from. Getting something done was just not on my priority list, nor could it have been. I just feel like gob-smacked, whack. Our world is in turmoil.

Anne: Well, that’s what it is. I think really because it’s such uncharted territory, and none of us really know what’s going on, I think there’s a lot of fear, you know, and that –

Liz: And armchair quarterbacking.

Anne: Yeah.

Liz: You know, people telling other people how to feel.

Anne: Yeah, that’s totally correct. I think that we all are at different phases within this. Because we were hit with something that I think is truly scary. We don’t know what’s going to happen. As time moves on, and we’re hitting, you know, our maximum numbers during this pandemic, it just gets sad, scary, and I think we have to try to figure out how we’re dealing with all that. And then just go on as if, what, it’s a normal day? Because it isn’t. It really isn’t. And I think we can’t put too much pressure on ourselves to feel a particular way, or to be up and optimistic all the time, although you know.

Liz: You usually are, man. You usually put a smile on people’s face, and whether you intend to or not, you know, you do come across as very upbeat and ready to go and not dwelling on the concerns. Where I get concerned is where people are posting their bookings, and then they’re getting chastised for posting their bookings because it’s making people that aren’t booking feel bad. And then is like I don’t want you to feel – I’m like who, and pardon me if I anger anyone, but who am I to tell you how to feel?

Anne: Right, yeah. Exactly.

Liz: No. If you need to post – I mean heck, I was posting all sorts of goofy, sometimes inappropriate – and by the way, I’ve got an inappropriate one coming in a few days –

Anne: Thanks for the warning. Thanks for the warning.

Liz: I have planned it. I have planned it.

Anne: She plans the inappropriateness.

Liz: I do, I do.

Anne: I love it.

Liz: You know, it just, come on, folks! You know, you cannot decide what makes you afraid, you cannot set your fears, and nor should you try to set the opinions or feelings of others. And by golly, quit calling people names. I don’t care what your political beliefs are. Stop that stuff! Just stop it!

Anne: I think there’s lots of expectations especially when we read social media. First of all, what do we have, right? Thankfully we do have our Internet and our network connections so that we can stay connected in this way. And that’s like a double-edged sword actually, because a lot of the stuff that you’re seeing out there could be good. It could be funny, it could be entertaining, but then there’s a lot of other stuff on there that’s not so good and is not so happy. And we’re trying to process all of that at once. So we see people’s comments here and there, and this is what you should do. This is what you shouldn’t do. You should be so productive. Take this time to learn, take this time to hone your craft. Even I’ve been guilty of saying that because for me, part of my coping mechanism is to actually work through, you know, if I don’t know what to do with my emotion, I work through it. That is my self-admitted, a little bit of a workaholic over here, which gosh, I think anybody that knows me probably has already known all about me forever, but that’s really how I deal as I push forward through work. But a lot of times that’s not so great because there’s some denial in that. And so when I do take the time to absorb what’s happening, yeah, it affects me. It affects some of my performance when I have to go and do an audition, when all of this is weighing on my mind. I’m distracted.

Liz: Well, and let me take another slice at the current situation. My experience with a lot of the VO community is a lot of them have an uptick in their business. They’re busier than they’ve been. And then some of the maybe perhaps less experienced folk are seeing no work. And so then you have the really experienced ones who are busier than normal feeling guilty for having that, you know, surge in work. And like I said, it’s just such a strange place to be. I think the best thing any of us can do is to just be as authentic in our own selves as we can. And I’m not trying to quote any kind of anybody.