Business of VO: VO Wage Gap

Ladies - what do you think - is there a Gender wage gap? Holla Back! We team up with John Florian and the team at VoiceoverExtra.com to bring you this episode. We explore a recent article on their site that addresses this pressing and relevant discussion. Come join the conversation Lady Voices!



Takeaways

Quick Concepts from Today’s Episode:

  1. John Florian from VoiceoverXtra.com approached the Bosses about at article written by Lynne Darlington on June 6th, titled Female VoiceOver Talent Self-Inflict Their Wage Gap – A Client’s Perspective.

  2. VoiceoverXtra has been a reputable news and information source for the voiceover community for many years. Hundreds of voiceover coaches including Anne and Gabby have both contributed articles and content to the site.

  3. The article’s perspective is that female voiceover actors ask for less money and quote lower than their male counterparts.

  4. Women more than men seem to have a problem asking for, addressing and negotiating money.

  5. This may be due in part to the traditions and house-hold dynamics of old.

  6. Many women were raised to believe that making more money than their husband was wrong and insulting.

  7. The perception of non-famous actors is one of poverty – so many voice actors have a bad relationship with their view of money and earnings.

  8. Both genders should educate themselves on salary, wages, compensation, etc. in order to avoid inequality.

  9. Many women accept a ‘tip’ for a job well done – but they don’t demand it from the onset of their pricing.

  10. Women are not in demand in some areas of VO – so the market sets the tone for this gap. It’s not really something we can control.

  11. To join the conversation read the article and comment or email thebosses@voboss.com

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Referenced in this Episode

Direct links to things we brought up ++

  1. Read the Article: Female Voiceover Talent Self-Inflict Their Own Wage Gap

  2. Read the Followup Article

  3. Recorded on ipDTL

Full Episode Transcript

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Anne: Hey everybody, welcome to the VO BOSS podcast. I’m your host, Anne Ganguzza, along with my bestie-bosstie, Gabby Nistico. Hey, Gabby.

Gabby: Hello.

Anne: So Gabby, John Florian from VoiceOverXtra reached out to me the other day.

Gabby: I love John.

Anne: Isn’t he the best?

Gabby: Oh my God, I’ve known John for some many years.

Anne: I know, me too.

Gabby: He’s such a cutie, and he’s such a sweetheart, and yeah, for those of you who don’t know, so he runs VoiceOverXtra, which is like this really great resource, news hub, networking website for all things voiceover.

Anne: Yes, you must go see VoiceOverXtra if you have not, and read, read, read, read. I wonder how many articles he has by now, because he’s been in business for a very long time. It’s a really cool timeline of voiceover [laughs]

Gabby: Everyone who’s ever been anyone in voiceover has at some point had like a featured article or done work with him. I know you’ve been a contributor. I’ve been a contributor. Yeah, it’s crazy.

Anne: Well, he wanted me to take a look at this very interesting article, and I think it is a great opportunity to talk about something that I think is, you know, something that in our businesses women should be thinking about. And it is an article written by Lynne Darlington. As she, and it talks about “Female Voiceover Talent Self-inflict Their Wage Gap, a Client’s Perspective.”

Gabby: Yeah. So we’re going to try not to alienate our male listeners with this episode, but it is important, and John did reach out to us, and ask us to kind of broach the topic and see if we couldn’t prompt you guys to get involved in the conversation as well.

Anne: So the very first topic here that Lynne talks about is that females asked for less money. Right there is a powerful statement. [laughs]

Gabby: Yeah.

Anne: So that there was a discrepancy along gender lines regarding the price quotes that she received. It led me to think about gosh, are there people out there undermining, women specifically, undermining their worth by asking for less?

Gabby: This is definitely something you and I have tackled head on. It’s the same pattern, right? Women, more so than men, seem to have a problem asking for money, talking about money, addressing money, and for that matter, knowing their worth and knowing the value that goes along with what they do. Women tend to minimize.

Anne: Well you know, the whole money block theory, women were raised to think that they were the homemakers, they stayed home, take care of the kids, and the male was the breadwinner of the family. And so that tradition, I believe, influenced me when I was growing up because my mother, you know, that’s what she did. She stayed home, and she took care of the kids. And he was out there making money. And I was always kind of raised with that idea that my mom couldn’t make more money than my dad because it would make him feel less manly, so to speak.

Gabby: Sure. Sure, yeah, it would undermine him, or create sort of a security issue. Or insecurity, yeah.

Anne: It’s weird. Now I’m showing my age, but I remember thinking when I got married, ok, if I make this much money in my job, right, is it going to insult my husband if I make more? Or should I just not say anything? Or what if – and I had all of these questions going through my head. This of course was before I started to become my own entrepreneur, and how I like to say that I’ve advanced my mental worth over the years and said, “hey, wait a minute. I am worth this. And it doesn’t matter if I’m female, male, you know, alien, whatever. I deserve a certain amount of money for my work.”

Gabby: See, I’m with you on that part. The other stuff, the family component, not so much. In my case, I was born and raised with a sense of New York hustle that has never gone away, and from as early an age as I can remember, it was always, “are you going to make some money off of that? You know you can sell that. Why don’t you go out to the curb and see if the neighbors’ll buy it?” It didn’t matter what it was.

Anne: I love that. [laughs]

Gabby: So yeah, like my entrepreneurialism started when I was like five. I mean, I was always trying to figure out how to make cash. I wonder if I wasn’t prompted to do that, and my folks hadn’t sort of positioned me for that, what would have happened when I finally went into business for myself? I would have been probably pretty lost.

Anne: I think that’s great there was an actual active role in allowing you to pursue your entrepreneurial visions. It’s not that I wasn’t encouraged to, you know, follow my dreams and to do what it was that I wanted.

Gabby: Oh no, of course not.

Anne: It was like an undercurrent, Gabby. And I don’t – you know wh